Mark V Großfeld (Giant)-Binocular with Storage Case
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- Artikelnummer2456410
- EAN Code4047825010971
- ManufacturerBaader Planetarium
- Net weight (kg)1.40
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In this case, you will need an additional 2" nose-piece with the product number: 2458130 2" Nosepiece to T-2/M48a – with Safety-Kerf - English
Baader Web Team / 25. September 202500We always recommend a T-2 star diagonal as this gives you the shortest possible adaptation, so that you can use a GPC with a lower factor and use lower magnifications, too. Chances are good that you can use the 1.25x gpc with a T-2 prism diagonal and achieve lower magnifications, without having a disadvantage at higher magnifications. If you don't mind the disadvantages of a GPC with higher magnification, you can use a 2" star diagonal on a refractor.
On a Schmidt-Cassegrain, you can reach focus with almost all accessories, and don't need a GPC to reach focus. But: As you are moving the main mirror, you are increasing the focal length, while you are at the same time loosing aperture, because the main mirror moves closer to the secondary and can’t fully illuminate. Image quality also doesn’t improve when you change the distance between the optical elements so drastically and observe at f/13 or worse.
We developed the T-2 star diagonals not only so that you can achieve focus with shorter GPCs, but also so that SCs and similar telescopes can be used closer to the focal point for which they were designed.
That’s why we do not recommend using a bino-viewer behind a 2“ star diagonal even if you can reach focus with a Schmidt-Cassegrain: You’ll probably be disappointed by the image and think that it is a problem oft he bino-viewer, although it is caused by the drastically changed optical configuration inside oft he telescope itself.
Even on a SC with T-2-star diagonal, we recommend at least the 1.25x gpc, too, at least for higher magnifications. At f/10, it is not strictly necessary – but it still shortens the necessary back focus, so that optical aberrations induced by the mirror distances are less.Team Baader Planetarium / 25. September 202500
You would be right if the optical design of our glass path corrections were based on a telecentric system and not on a Barlow lens design (you can find information about the differences here https://www.baader-planetarium.com/en/blog/the-benefits-of-telecentric-systems/ )
Every Barlow lens widens the beam path, so you won't see any vignetting in our bino with a glass path corrector. All customers who have bought Mark V Binoviewers with these correctors over the last 25 years can confirm this.Baader Web Team / 8. Januar 202500
25mm is tricky, as even the Newton GPC only saves ca. 80mm and the binoviewer requires ca. 110mm.
There is however one option: You can use a SunDancer Telecentric System:
# 1363070 - Baader SunDancer II Telecentric System TZ-3S
# 1363080 - Baader SunDancer II Telecentric System TZ-4S
They give you 3x or 4x magnification and do not correct the coma, but the do not change the focus position too much. If I compare it with a 1.25" eyepiece and the 2"/1.25" Pushfix reducer #2408151, I need to extend my focuser to the following positions:
1.25" eyepiece plus Pushfix Reducer: 3.3cm
1.25" eyepiece plus Pushfix Reducer plus TZ plus binoviewer: 1.5cm (TZ-3S) or 1.6cm (TZ-4S)
1.25" eyepiece plus TZ (in 2" clamp) plus binoviewer: 3.7cm (TZ-3S) or 3.8cm (TZ-4S)
So, there is almost no change in the position if you switch from a 1.25" eyepiece with 2" adapter to the TZ-3 in the 2" eyepiece clamp. The downside is of course the additional 3x magnification. We do not have a 2x Telecentric System, as they were mainly made for H-alpha-filters at f/15-telescopes (these filters need f/30), and these telescopes have become rare. However, we are working on a new version or production run of the # 2456300 2" Glasspathcorrector 1,7x for Newtons, but it needs at least 30mm of back focus at the moment.
Baader Web Team / 27. August 202400
- The glasspath corrector works similar to a Barlow (although the optical details are different), and its magnification factor depends on the distance to the eyepiece (see e.g. https://www.baader-planetarium.com/en/blog/barlow-lenses-their-magnification-factors-and-working-distances/ ). So, if you place a GPC farther away, its magnification changes. They are designed for a specific distance, but work quite well in different distances, too. For such applications, they can be mounted between two T-2-threads of many T-2-adapters (e.g. between two T-2-extension tubes), their collar is then clamped between the two parts.Baader Web Team / 18. März 202400
- If you can use a 2" star diagonal depends only on your telescope's back focus. In the manual of the binoviewer is a description of how to measure it; you can also put an eyepiece which you want to use with the binoviewer into your exising star diagonal and see how much focus travel you have left. If you have 11cm left, you don't need a GPC, at least not to reach focus. A binoviewer needs ca. 11cm, minus the length saved by the GPC, plus the length of the star diagonal. The 32mm T-2-prism #2456005 is the shortest connection between binoviewer and telescope with a length of only 35mm, followed by the 36mm prism #2456095 with an optical length of 38,5mm. A 2" star diagonal has got a length of about 110mm (depending on if it is a mirror or a prism), but you can save some centimeters be replacing the ClickLock eyepiece clamp with a T-2-adapter and screwing the binoviewer directly onto the star diagonal (usually, you can use #1508035 for this). A GPC has got several functions: It eliminates the colour aberrations introduced by the prisms in faster systems (at telescopes slower than f/10, you don't need a GPC to remove these aberrations), it moves the focus point away from the telescope so that you can reach focus, and it picks up the light farther away from the telescope (you don't need to place the entry of the binoviewer as close to the telescope), so that you avoid vignetting by the entry aperture of the binoviewer, as the the telescope's beam of light is narrower the closer you are to the focal point. A telecentric system like the Powermate might work indeed, as it is rather independent from the distance between telecentric and eyepiece, but we never tested it. Which GPC you need also depends only on the avaiable back focus of your telescope, and on the desired magnification.Baader Web Team / 10. März 202300
- The image orientation of the binoviewer is the same as that of a single eyepiece. So, if you use it with a standard prism or mirror star diagonal, the image will be upright, but mirrored. With an Amici prism, the image will be upright and correctly orientated, just as with the naked eyes or a pair of binoculars.Baader Web Team / 10. Januar 202310
