2" BBHS ® Mirror Diagonal
Product Details
- SKU2456115
- EAN Code4047825033543
- ManufacturerBaader Planetarium
- Net weight (kg)0.45
Mechanical Specifications
- Clamping SystemClickLock
- Deflection angle90°
- Inner Connection (eyepiece/-camera-sided)ø 2" (50.8mm)M55
- Inner Connection (lens sided)M482"/SCT Thread (50.8mm)M55
- Inner Diameter / Clear Aperture (mm)47.5
- Outer Connection (lens sided)ø 2" (50.8mm)S58
Optical Specifications
- Image OrientationErect imageMirror inverted
- Optical DesignMirror Diagonal
- Optical length (mm)112
- Reflection surfaceBBHS coatedDielectrically protected
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B. Hohmann
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BBHS-Zenitspiegel von Baader
Ich bin sehr froh, dass es eine solche Qualität überhaupt gibt.
Mechanik 1: Schon die Steckhülse für die Montage am Teleskop ist anderes, als alles, was ich vorher hatte: Sie passt! Hier glaube ich das erste Mal, dass der Spiegel auf der optischen Achse sitzt. Bei drei Marken-Spiegeln mittlerer Preisklasse, die ich vorher hatte, war mir unnötiges Spiel in einer so wichtigen Sache zwischen Teleskop und Steckhülse aufgefallen.
Mechanik 2: Der ClickLock greift die Okulare gleichzeitig [!] von mehreren Seiten. Auch hier habe ich endlich eine plausible Zentrierung der Okulare. Die Funktionsweise von Ringklemmung habe ich mir von erfahrenen Beratern erklären lassen [die optische Zentrierung käme durch die Steckhülse der Okulare zustande]. Was ich gesehen habe, war immer eine kleine Schiefstellung zur Gegenseite der Klemmschrauben.
Schon von der Mechanik her ist dieser Spiegel das, worauf ich nicht verzichten möchte.
Optische Eigenschaften: Doppelstern Mizar a und b (ζ Ursae Majoris) bisher nie so schön getrennt gesehen. Die Einzelsterne erscheinen mir definierter, weniger Streulicht. Zwischen den Sternen: Schwarz.
Insgesamt macht meine Investition in einen schönen APO-Refraktor und sehr gute Okulare nur zusammen mit diesem Spiegel Sinn.
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I use this with a few scopes from 80mm to 152mm APO refractors, 14
. 11" and 8" SCTs. I also have Astro Physics and a Hutech 2"
diagonals. The BAADER does give a bit more on planets and DS probably due to wider range of frequencies it passes. Oters have noted this also.
BUT....here is the scary part... I am also a solar observer. with Coronado Ha and Lunt Ha scopes, Day Star, Ha, and BAADER Cool Cermaic Hershel Wedge. I had planned on using my new BBHS BAADER diagonal with my favorite Ha setup but luckiily it wouldn't quite reach focus with some of my eyepieces due to a bit more back focus with the click lock (excellent device though normally). As a result I used my other two diagonals. About a year after buying the BBHS I happened to come across a warning email by BAADER that warned to NOT use the BBHS diagonals for Ha due to the additional radiation it apsses as a result of coatings. These could be dangerous to the user as well as equipment. While I love my BAADER equipment I think that warning should have been included in all product descriptions and user manuals. Here is the email I saw from BAADER:
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Question..
Can I use a UV / IR blocking filter and / or the BBHS mirror before an H-alpha or calcium approach? Do you recommend the 2 "BBHS or the 2" ClickLock star diagonal?
-74Question by: Enrique V. on 10/14/2016 9:41:00 AM | 1 answer (s)
For observing the sun in H-alpha in combination with a suitable filter combination, we recommend the normal, dielectric Clicklock mirror, because below 380nm and above 740nm it conveys significantly less radiation into the eyepiece than the BBHS star diagonal. The star diagonal thus significantly reduces the load on downstream filters. Please always use a suitable energy protection filter in front of the lens in order to keep the strain on the filter as low as possible.
We strongly advise against visual observation of the sun through a calcium filter - the 397nm of the calcium line are in the UV; It is known that UV radiation can trigger photoxic reactions in the eye and lead to eye damage. In addition, even young people have only a low sensitivity to these wavelengths, which decreases even further with age. Therefore, the eye does not notice that the intensity is far too high. If you want to increase the intensity (for example with a different zenith mirror) in order to see a brighter picture, the risk of eye damage increases. According to the latest standards for eye safety and ophthalmological findings, the sun must not be visually observed at 397 nm.
We urgently recommend observing the sun in calcium only photographically, then no zenith mirror is necessary. We cannot understand why some manufacturers offer calcium filters for visual solar observation.
We also advise against placing a filter close to the focal point - an energy protection filter should be placed in front of the lens, even if high demands are placed on the optical quality of a large filter. A filter close to the focus saves money because it can be made much smaller, but we absolutely cannot recommend it - both because of our own conscience and because of EU regulations. The filter absorbs all of the energy that the lens collects - and could break at any time. For technical as well as ethical reasons, we can only recommend a dielectric energy protection filter in front of the lens.
Answer by: Baader Web Team (Admin) on 10/14/2016 9:43:00 AM
Supperior in every way for planetary and DS observing over competitiors. Clicklock is wonderful.
Warning not includeed in advertising or user manual about danger with Ha solar observing
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Die Kombination des TEC1120/160 FL mit dem Hyperion 36mm und dem 2" Spiegel ist unfassbar gut. Das Bildfeld ergibt den kompletten M42 Orionnebel, die kompletten M45 Plejaden und zb komplett NGC 869_884 H&Chi in einer Qualität, wie ich sie noch nicht gesehen habe. Jetzt spielt auch der TEC seine Qualität aus.Bis dato hatte ich Baader 2" Zenitspiegel. Die waren schon super. Aber die Qualität des Bildes hat sich mit dem neuen BBHS Spiegel nochmals extrem verbessert.
Ich glaube immer der Spiegel ist beleuchtet. So hell und klar ist das Bild.
Die Abbildung ist knackig scharf. Ich habe extreme Freude damit und kann diesen Spiegel nur weiter empfehlen.
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Preis könnte etwas niedriger sein. Aber: Den Preis vergisst man, die Qualität bleibt.
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Unfortunately weather and work prevents my giving a detailed review, however I can definitely give an initial impression over a few nights use of this extremely fine product.
There is somewhat of an undefinable quality using the BBHS over OEM and upgrade diagonals that is extremely pleasurable. While contrast and clarity are easy to spot in the rendition of stars and all objects, there is a very definite 'softness' or lack of harshness produced... very much like seeing with the naked eye. Without words, I guess I liken it to listening to music that was produced by warm analog means versus the harsh digital process.
I can easily vouch for the high quality and precision of the BBHS... and of course the Clicklock provides incredible convenience and safety.
Lastly, Tobias is a gem.... always there to help... extremely quick in response, even tho we have oceans between us.
Yes the product is a bit costly, however definitely not overpriced. If you are like me and truly appreciate the splendor of the heavens above, this product can help take you there.
Thanx Tobias... and Baader!
The pleasant, comfortable yet exacting view it allows.
It does not guarantee clear skies
Looking at the Baader 2" BBHS ® Mirror Diagonal with 2" ClickLock Clamp. For a Mewlon 210, what goes between the diagonal and the scope as it looks like it needs screw in. Thanks.
Derryl / July 27, 20231 Answer
- The 2" ClickLock clamp of the BBHS mirror is eyepiece-sided. Telescope-sided this features a standard 2" nosepiece which can be inserted into any 2" clamp. For your Takahashi Mewlon we recommend the Mewlon AUX adapter https://www.baader-planetarium.com/en/baader-takahashi-mewlon-aux-adapter-m71m72-to-fit-2558230.html which converts the M71 male thread to an M72 female thread. Then you can use our 2" ClickLock M72a clamp https://www.baader-planetarium.com/en/accessories/adapters-imaging-accessories/eyepiece-clamps-nosepieces/baader-2%22-clicklock-eyepiece-clamps.html#574=940 for a sturdy and easily manageable connectionBaader Web Team / August 1, 202320
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Can I put in any eyepiece without worrying about how long it is? is there a built in safety where it won't hit the mirror? if not how do I measure to prevent this? Thank you!
Gene Fish / March 24, 20231 Answer
- Sorry - you must check this for yourself. We thought we have considered all eyepieces in the market when this product was designed, but every year new eyepieces, barlows,telecentrics asf. are being announced and we did not test those. The 2" aperture must not get restricted anywhere in the beam to not create a vignetting "bottleneck". For this reason we could not enter a 1 1/4" protective rest into the beam and - to our knowlede - no one offering a 2" diagonal does that.Baader Web Team / March 29, 202310
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I just replaced my Baader 2"/90° Astro Amici-Prism with BBHS ® coating (# 2456120) with the Baader 2" BBHS ® Mirror Diagonal with 2" ClickLock Clamp (# 2456115) on which I put a Baader UFC.
However, something bothers me using the UFC on the 2456115.
While on the 2456120 the Filter slider can be inserted and removed from the right, on the 2456115, it must be from the left (forced position when the UFC is screwed onto the diagonal) .
Can you tell me if it is possible to insert and remove the Filter slider from the right on the 2456115, in the same way as on the 2456120?
Thank you.
Lionel / February 23, 20231 Answer
- Unfortunately the way the mirror is built, there is no way to set the endpoint of a thread at a specific point. Another Mirror Diagonal might have the thread end at the perfect position for your UFC. This is not a suitable solution though, that's why we developed the S58 UFC Adapter specifically for this purpose. This is fastened via the dovetail on the mirror housing and thus fastened at any desired position. Please check out the application images on the product page. https://www.baader-planetarium.com/en/accessories/adapters-imaging-accessories/universal-filter-changer/baader-ufc-s58-camera-adapter.htmlBaader Web Team / February 24, 202310
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Is there any star diagonal from Baader that would give me a CORRECT left-to-right horizontally view.
Perhaps a Prism?
Thanks for your help.
Emilio Lavignasse / October 14, 20221 Answer
- If you are using a lens telescope or a catadioptric telescope (Schmidt-Cassegrain, Maksutov), this can be achieved with an erecting prism, usually of the design of an Amici-prism: https://www.baader-planetarium.com/en/accessories/optical-accessories/prism-and-mirror-star-diagonals.html?filter_prism_design=447 For a Newtonian, there are only some cheap erect-image eyepieces included with some beginner telescopes, but no high-quality lenses.Baader Web Team / October 14, 202200
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Does this diagonal have an eyepiece stop?
Emilio / March 20, 20221 Answer
- The diagonal has got a clear aperture of 47.5mm, which is a bit less than a 2" nosepiece (which has got a 48mm-filter thread). In any case, the eyepiece is stopped by the collar of the eyepiece (as with all focusers etc.)Baader Web Team / March 21, 202210
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How do you recommend cleaning the BHSS mirror diagonal? Do you have a recommended product and procedure?
Antony McEwan / February 7, 20211 Answer
- BBHS-mirror coatings require the same care during cleaning as you would give to the protected aluminum-coatings of a Newtonian telescope. For cleaning optics, we recommend our Optical Wonder fluid plus a soft brush to remove dust: https://www.baader-planetarium.com/en/catalogsearch/result/?q=optical+wonder For cleaning optics, please take a look at this PDF: https://www.baader-planetarium.com/en/downloads/dl/file/id/110/product/1663/cleaning_and_maintenance_of_optics_a_short_instruction_guide.pdfBaader Web Team / February 8, 202100
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