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Baader has a lot of parts in their catalog, too many for a novice like me to sort through - is there anything I can acquire to convert or make the VIP element a 1.2x Barlow?
The 2.6x glasspath-corrector is solely designed to provide the necessary backfocus for using binoviewers in conjunction with newtonian telescopes and refractor telescopes. For correcting for the huge amount of glass in our Mark V giant binoviewer (# 2456410) - and likewise in the newly designed Maxbright Mark II binoviewer that is still under preparation at this time.
Both lens elements of the Baader 2x VIP-Barlow (# 2406101) and the 2.6x glasspath-corrector (# 2456317) do look quite similar when inspecting them by eye only (they use the same housing) - and we are very sorry that through the years this is always again creating confusion in the forums. However - we always again reiterate that the two products are not the same lenses and cannot be used for serving a dual purpose.
In case you were ordering the 2.6x glasspath-corrector and would use this product as a 2x barlow lens, you would find out that it creates severe chromatic errors if used in this (wrong) mode. The same accounts if trying to use the 2x VIP-barlow-lens as glasspath-corrector in conjunction with a binoviewer - you would see color error and conclude that the lens were faulty.
We never said that these two products may be used for the other purpose, but always again people look at them and conclude they were the same - which definitely is not the case. Both products work excellent if used for their specific purpose. But since they repeatedly are being (ab)used in either/or configuration, some people concluded both designs were flawed. Again - this definitely is not the case.
Thanks for purchasing the VIP-Barlow if you want a barlow lens. We are sorry but the barlow-element alone is not available. If you intend to use a barlow element only that readily threads into regular 1 1/4" filter threads, we do recommend our Q-Barlow 2.25x Link (# 2956185).
I would like to use now in a 2” scope and in a reflex camera and I don’t know how to do it.
Is there any schematic to see the way to do it.
On the other hand, I would like to know the explanation about modules of the Barlow. On instructions included in the box, I don’t have in a clear way utilities of each module.
Thank you in advance for your help
The magnification of the Barlow depends on the distance to camera sensor or field stop of the eyepiece. We have described it in the PDF https://www.baader-planetarium.com/en/downloads/dl/file/id/240/product/1062/calculating_different_magnifications_with_the_vip_barlow.pdf which you can also find in the download-section ot the product website.
A standard T-ring gives you a distance of 55mm with a classical DSLR. You can screw the Barlow directly or with the included 15mm T-2 extension onto the T-ring of your camera.
At 3x will the 26mm 70° and 35mm 70° eyepieces have problems?
Will the 3x image be degraded a lot?
Will an additional 64mm spacer be needed to reach 3x?
(1) 2-to-1.25 reducer
(2) 15mm spacer ring
(3) 2" nosepiece (# 2408150)
(4) Baader VIP element housing cell
(5) Baader M43a x 0.75 / T-2a Adapter (# 2458199).
In particular, (4) is mounted on (5), and (5) is screwed at the bottom of (3) via T2 connection.
Advantages of this configuration for visual use are:
(1) the change in focus position when the VIP is used or removed is minor. Also, adding spacers does not change the focus position much
(2) it is more solid, as the connection with the focuser is via 2"
(3) the barlow can be used with refractor diagonals in 2" without hitting the mirror or prism.
Thanks for making such a wonderful tool.
So, you should use a high-quality amici prism like
- Baader 2"/90° Astro Amici-Prism with BBHS ® coating # 2456120
- Baader T-2 / 90° Baader Roof-Prism with BBHS ® coating (T-2 part #02) # 2456130
Both are designed for astronomical use and high magnifications. With the T-2/90° prism, you can insert the barlow element into the housing of the prism as shown in the sketch in the description of the VIP-barlow, which saves you some opitical length for a short adaptation. Or you can use it in 1.25"-configuration. If you want to use it with a 2" eyepiece clamp, make sure that it doesn't hit the prism.
Or better with this adapter to set a free orientation by camera use:
Also you can unscrew the topmost knurled ring off the barlow to get accress to the M42 thread. However, to avoid any obstruction you can replace
part #15 by: https://www.baader-planetarium.com/en/baader-nosepiece-2%22-t-2-m48-saftey-kerfs.html
Modular Barlow with 1¼" and 2" barrel
High quality optics with apochromatic characteristics, for magnifications of 2x and above
- Optical design by Dr. Pudenz, who has also designed the Zeiss Abbe eyepieces
- Modified by Roland Christen for US-American glasses
- modular construction for visual and photographc (VIP) use
- Fits into 1¼" and 2" focusers
- Designed for 35mm-film (ideal for full-frame-DSLRs with 24x36mm-sensors)
- Higher magnifications can be achieved easily by adding additional T-2 extension tubes
- Focal length of barlow element: -65,5mm
The housing contains the following parts from the T-2™-System: #15/#29/#25a/#25a/#14
Attention: This is a 2x barlow lens. It has nothing to do the 2.6x glass-path-corrector lens that we offer exclusively for binocular viewers
The Baader Barlow lenses at a glance
With currently five different barlow lenses in Baader Planetarium's product range, it is not easy to keep track of which model fulfils which function best.
Fluorite Flatfield Converter (FFC) / 3x-8x (#2458200 , € 729.99)
90mm field of view also for medium format cameras - uncompromising quality even for extreme enlargements.
Focus gain: depending on configuration about 1.5-2.6cm
Carl Zeiss 1¼" Abbe Barlow lens 2x (#1603321 , € 477)
Legendary Zeiss quality for the common magnification range between 2x and 3x (with additional T-2 extensions). With T-2 connection for cameras or eyepiece clamps. The qualitatively equivalent solution to the Fluorite FFC when smaller field size and smaller post-magnification are desired.
Focus gain: About 3 cm
VIP 2x modular barlow lens, visual and photographic (#2406101 , € 228.02)
Versatile barlow lens for magnifications from 2x, for use with cameras (via T-2 thread) and eyepieces. Calculated for 35mm image diagonal (full format). With additional T-2 extensions it can also be used for slightly higher magnification factors.
Focus gain at 2x: Approx. 3.3 cm
Baader Q-Barlow 1.3x/ 2.25x (#2956185 , € 55)
Inexpensive and amazingly high quality Barlow lens for the lower magnification range: In addition to being used as a normal Barlow lens with eyepiece clamp (with factor 2.25x), the Barlow element can also be used as a negative lens group when screwed directly into (almost) all eyepiece sleeves or directly in front of a camera with 1.25" filter thread and then provides a lower magnification of approximately 1.3x. Ideal for adapting a modern planetary camera to the resolution of an already long focal length telescope. Prerequisite: There must be no other elements in the nose piece that would prevent the approximeately 13 mm long Q-Barlow lens group from being screwed in.
Focus gain at 2.25x: About 0.4 cm
Hyperion Zoom 2.25x Barlow lens (#2956180 , € 133) Specially designed for the Hyperion Zoom eyepiece, also fits the filter thread of other eyepieces.
With the included T-2 adapter, it can also be used directly on cameras; provides about 2.7x at 55mm working distance and about 2.3x at 25mm.
Focus gain: About 1.1 cm
More information, images results...
... can be found on our detailed Blogpost:
Barlow lenses, their magnification factors and working distances
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The camera at the eyepiece
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The eyepiece series from Baader Planetarium
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|Net weight (kg)||0.22|
|Inner Connection (lens sided)||Thread, M28, T-2 (M42 x 0,75)|
|Outer Connection (lens sided)||Barrel, 1¼"|
|Inner Connection (eyepiece/-camera-sided)||Clamp, 1¼"|
|Outer Connection (eyepiece/-camera-sided)||Thread, T-2 (M42 x 0,75)|
|Clamping System||Screw clamps|
|Focal length reduction||-65,5mm|
|Inner Diameter / Clear Aperture (mm)||28 mm|
|Barrel Size (in)||1¼", 2"|