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For adapting any cell mounted Baader 2 inch Filter onto a camera lens with 52mm front filter thread you will need:
#2408166 Baader DSLR 2" Filter-Holder M48 / SP54: https://www.baader-planetarium.com/en/baader-dslr-2%22-filter-holder-m48sp54.html
#2958052 Baader Lens-Adapter-Ring SP54 / M52: https://www.baader-planetarium.com/en/baader-hyperion-dt-ring-sp54m52-for-dtadapter-iiandiii-and-hyperion-eyepieces.html
Based on the SP54 thread, we offer many more adapters for various camera threads, our so-called Hyperion DT-rings. https://www.baader-planetarium.com/en/catalogsearch/result/?q=sp54
Both thread sizes come with our proprietary pitch - which is not the same for the female and male threads.
This is our own proprietary "emergency solution" for uniting a world were manufacturers all over the world copy from each other - to the point that there are almost a dozen different pitches in use for male and female threads. Traditionally US-companies used to do a UNF-based pitch and the rest of the world went for metric threads - but these do vary from 0.5 to 0.75.
For this reason it does not make sense to publish our non standard pitch because our pitch is made to cope with all existing metric and US-pitch standards - and as said - our solution has evolved from sheer necessity. It is a mixture of a queer pitch and under-/over-dimensioning . We will not want to declare this as a standard and get bashed up for it. It works for us and is a result of 20 years adaptation to fit our filters onto all crazy threads we have seen. And inspite of this - every now and then there comes another "dragonboat-eyepiece" were even our filters may not fit...
In relation to both Filters' Wavelength Spectrum Response what alternative Filter(s) do you have that has the nearest spectrum response in the 50 x 50mm unmounted version? Preferably 3mm thickness.
The reason for this enquiry is to have a useful 'Luminesence' filter for Lunar and Planetary Astrophotography when the rest of the filters are for Deep Sky Imaging (Baader CCD Complete Filter Set II 50 x 50mm #2459544).
Answer in detail: We are sorry, we never felt the Neodymium-Filter to be of intense enough value for CCD-imaging (but very nice for planetary lucky imaging!), hence it is being handled as perfect visual/videography filter here and only av. cell-mounted in 1 1/4" and 2" (2" being a size which already does serve well for DSLR-imaging and were we have all adapters available to put this filter in front of any DSLR-camera lens - or to use our UFC- filter changer for mounting it in front of any CCD-camera.
The neodymium substrate will become very expensive in 50x50 x3 mm size and we already must go through a lot of glass to cancel out substrates with striae and other pouring defects. If you find someone offering this substrate in that size and thickness, you should very carefully check it for optical defects as most people do not do this careful glass selection, nor do they polish each filter substrate on an auto-deck-polisher, nor do they apply a truly high efficient BBAR-coating on both sides. Actually most are just usurping the name of the substrate while supplying very mediocre optical quality.
If you have evidence of people using our smaller neodymium-filters successfully as "L-filter" substitute in a regular CCD-camera filter wheel, then please let us see the links. If it is reasonable we may enter into such a project - but the resulting price may be double of a cell-mounted 2" filter. Also keep in mind that the 1 mm added thickness will definitely cause some loss in transmission!
Regarding the IR-pass-filter in 2 mm thickness: These are perfect for lucky imaging/videography. Hence 95% of these filters are being sold in the 1 1/4" cell-mounted version in 2 mm thickness. Again - offering this in 3 mm thickness will reduce transmission and not offer enough benefit for regular CCD-imaging (just our 2 ct´s).
If you also use 2" eyepieces, most reducers from 2" to 1.25" like our 2" to 1¼" ClickLock Reducer #2956214 also have a 2"-filterthread included.
But - it will mean you have:
-not the maximum deep sky contrast in light polluted areas
-not the maximum efficiency in really dark areas
->therefore separate filters, a UHC and a UV/IR blocker and maybe the Moon&Skyglow for planetary work are the better solution.
So if imaging efficiency is not your main intention and a compromise is ok you can choose the Moon&Skyglow alone. Otherwise we recommend separate ones.
Please note, that of course you then effectively have a mask with the filter diameter in front of your lens.
Baader DSLR-2" Filter Holder M48/SP54 # 2408166 - this provides the SP54-thread
plus DT-rings (https://www.baader-planetarium.com/en/accessories/adapters-imaging-accessories/camera-adapters/dt-rings.html) and stepper rings for your camera.
For 77mm, you need
Baader Hyperion DT-Ring SP54/M62 for DTAdapter II&III and Hyperion Eyepieces # 2958062
Baader Hyperion Stepper-Ring M62 onto M77 # 2958077
For 82mm, you need
Baader Hyperion DT-Ring SP54/M62 for DTAdapter II&III and Hyperion Eyepieces # 2958062
Baader Hyperion Stepper-Ring M72 onto M82 # 2958082
I'm thinking here about very short focal ratio systems, such as the Hyperstar, which can operate at f/2.
Based from the SP54 thread, we have lots of Step Up- and Down Adapters, our "Hyperion DT-Rings".
Please check out also our detailed PDF on Digiscoping:
We do not have a clip-filter solution, but you can mount any 2" filters in front of a lens. This works for lenses with focal lengths of ca. 80mm and longer; for wide-angle-lenses, astronomical filters work not so good at the edges of the field of view.
To mount a 2" filter in front of a camera lens, you need
Baader DSLR-2" Filter Holder M48/SP54 # 2408166
plus adapters from the SP54-thread to the filter thread of you camera. These are:
Hyperion DT-rings #2958028 - #2458062 and additional Stepper Rings M67 up to M82
However - any optician must be able to grind a 2" filter substrate down to 36 mm diameter. Just in case you were to have a very urgent requirement. Sorry - we cannot offer this service ourselves.
1¼" and 2" Neodymium Lunar & Skyglow Filter
With integrated IR blocker and Phantom Group Coating1¼" and 2" Neodymium Lunar & Skyglow Filter
Drastic contrast enhancement for all telescopes, without loss of image brightness! This filter is initially based on a development by Carl Zeiss. The effect of the element neodymium as filter material is very impressive. If used as co-mixture to optical glass, it improves the contrast and enhances the red portions of the image (especially for Mars and Jupiter). At night it blocks that part of the spectrum, which suffers most from street lighting – and it blocks the light pollution, also known as „skyglow“. And lastly, the applied UV/IR blocking coating (Luminance-coating - check the spectral trace) cuts all unwanted UV below 400 nm and NIR above 700 nm - this makes it the „sharpest contrast enhancing filter“ for imaging.
Compare with the moon & Skyglow filter before the naked eye, to test the effectiveness. Red and blue colours are extensively strengthened. If you cannot see the GRS (Great Red Spot) due to pollution try this which will allow you to see it.
In order to establish a precise plan area and to maintain the planarity despite the applied forces through the different layers of coating, a high technical effort is necessary. You have to choose from a large amount of raw glass only the best pieces in tension-free annealed quality to even hope for a good final quality may. All too easily, the glass deforms with improper preparation or coating on older evaporation systems. The final product is almost useless, if not greatest of care is taken at every stage of production.
Surface details on Mars, Jupiter and Moon as well as many deep-sky-objects become much more prominent.
- Selective contrast filter, especially suitable for all reflector telescopes
- Filters out specific wavelengths, especially those caused by streetlight and most importantly their scattered light which lightens up the night sky
- Selective blocking retains natural colours intact but with RGB significantly enhanced, differences in colour and brightness persist.
- 95% transmission in the selected spectral range.
- Fits all standard filter threads and can be combined with other filters – e.g. the planeoptically
polished (!) Baader planetary colour filters. This way, you can see fine details better or combine several images with a monochrome camera to achieve colour images.
- The filter is at the same time optimised for Astrophotography due to it‘s full UV/IR-blocking coating. When used with DSLRs, stars will remain much tighter, because the unfocussed UV and IR parts of the spectrum are blocked out.
- Planeoptically polished; can be used without problems in front of a binoviewer or for afocal photography – far away from the focus without loosing sharpness!
- The fine-optical polish and absence of wedge error in the glass ensure perfect sharpness when magnifying more than 200x - while the much cheaper “fire -polished” filter glasses destroy the optical wavefront at high mags
- Neodymium doped optical glass
- Coatings Front/Back: 7-layer hard-BBAR-coating / 27-layered dielectrical UV/IR-cut coating
- Ultra-hard and durable Ion-beam hardened coatings – may be cleaned anytime without fear
Spectral Curve of the Moon & Skyglow Filter
The adjacent graph shows you the spectral curve of our Neodymium Moon & Skyglow filters. On the horizontal axis, the wavelength in nanometers, and the vertical axis is the transmission amount (opacity) specified in percent.
The area under the curve is the spectral range that can pass through the filter.
Important note: Before you buy a "Moon and Skyglow" filter, which is now available from several manufacturers, compare the transmission curves! You will find that the original "Baader Moon&Skyglow" filter has the highest transmission and is blocked in the UV/IR, with the same layer system as a Baader L filter. This means sharper images because only the spectral range where the telescope can deliver a sharp image, reaches the chip. In addition, our filter is plano-optically polished. Only few manufacturers are willing to do this, only because of this the filter is also suitable for the highest magnifications.
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